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Call for operator feedback on AS-to-org mapping tool (ASINT).
by Taejoong (tijay) Chung 22 Sep '25

22 Sep '25

Hello ZANOG. (Please excuse me if this message has been duplicated.) My name is Tijay Chung, and I am a researcher at Virginia Tech. Our team at Virginia Tech has been building *ASINT <https://asint.netsecurelab.org/>*, a research tool that *maps ASNs to their operating organizations* by combining Internet-routing metadata (WHOIS, PeeringDB, corp websites, M&A records, etc.) with large-language-model analysis. It is conceptually similar to CAIDA's AS2ORG, but with broader coverage. A use case is reducing false positives in BGP hijack detection by identifying when different origin ASNs actually belong to the same organization. *Please try it:* 1. AS search for AS 18733 (Microsoft and acquired ASNs): https://asint.netsecurelab.org/as-search/18733 2. Organization search for Deloitte (across multiple RIRs): https://asint.netsecurelab.org/org-search?q=deloitte *Why this might help:* Systems like Cloudflare Radar flag anomalies when the origin ASN does not match ROAs. Many of these are not hijacks but legitimate internal re-announcements between sibling ASNs. In our dataset of 17,282 such alerts (Jan 2023–Jul 2024), ASINT identified 1,621 cases (~9.4%) as likely intra-org. We sampled 100 of these and contacted operators; all 32 who replied confirmed they were internal, not hijacks. *What we need from you:* 1. Please check your org and ASNs. If you see a correct mapping, click the thumbs-up. If you see an error or a missing ASN, click the thumbs-down. After that, a short comment box appears. Any details you can share are valuable: correct legal entity name, subsidiaries, brand vs legal names, recent M&A, reseller or DDoS-scrubbing scenarios, multi-tenant NOCs, government or university structures, region-specific business units, joint ventures, or anything else that explains why two ASNs should or should not be grouped. 2. Expect errors. We know there are two classes: - False positives: we group ASNs under the same organization even though they are different. - Misses: we fail to group sibling ASNs that should be together. *If you spot either, please rate and leave a comment. We will feed your comments into the next LLM pipeline cycle to correct mappings and tune extraction rules.* 3. Any feedback is welcome: data sources we should incorporate, edge cases that keep biting you, risk of over-merges vs under-merges, UI issues, or better ways to present evidence. If you prefer email, reply here or write to our team: tijay(a)vt.edu, yongzhe(a)vt.edu, weitongli(a)vt.edu We aim to complement, not replace, existing datasets and community curation. If you maintain ground-truth lists for your org and are willing to share pointers, that helps everyone. If this is useful, we will report a summary of corrections learned from the community and continue iterating. Thanks for taking a look and for any time you can spare. Thanks, Tijay Chung, Associate Professor Virginia Tech | Computer Science 220 Gilbert Street, Suite 4303 Blacksburg, VA 24060 (540) 231-0667| tijay(a)vt.edu

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Join Us This Saturday 20 September - DNS & DNSSEC Operational Best Practices
by Sara Alamin 16 Sep '25

16 Sep '25

Hello ZANOG Team, Hope you are all doing well. We’d like to thank everyone who joined us for the recent Proxmox workshop it was a great session, and we truly appreciate your participation! We’re also excited to invite you to our next session in the SdNOG Weekly Workshop Series: DNS & DNSSEC Operational Best Practices with Philip Paeps Workshop Details Date: Saturday 20 September Time: 11:00 UTC (13:00 Sudan Time) More details: https://docs.sdnog.sd/books/sdnog-workshops/page/dns-dnssec-operational-bes… Join online: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/register/qcThhgQTSRqDkAtRR36uGQ As always, it’s an open and free session, anyone interested is welcome to join, learn, and ask questions. We’d love to see you there. Please share with your friends and colleagues, and let’s keep learning together! Best regards, Sara Alamin sdnog Team

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Reminder : ZANOG-WC : 18 September 2025
by donald＠nog.net.za 12 Sep '25

12 Sep '25

A Reminder about the next regional ZANOG Event Date: Thursday 18 September 2025 Time : 18h00 - 22h00 Venue : Workshop17, Gardens, Cape Town, South Africa. RSVP here : https://events.nog.net.za/event/68/ We are looking for more talks. Local NOGs are a great place to share stories or what you have been working on. let us know if you would like to share your story email us info[at]nog.net.za A big thank you to FLEXOPTIX for their support and sponsorship of ZANOG 2025 events.

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Re: [members-discuss] Update on the AFRINIC Board Election 2025
by Noah 11 Sep '25

11 Sep '25

Hi Seun I will publish it all and how the team came to that final slate. I will also include the external pressure and attempted interference that we faced with the team yet the NOMCOM is supposed to be an independent committee which even an Afrinic CEO or Internal legal office must never attempt to manipulate. Like I have indicated, it's going to be an interesting case study and a great comparison for the future. Cheers, *.**/noah* On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 11:50 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Bro in your publication, just remember to indicate if there were other > qualified candidates or not. When 2 or very few candidates exists that > meets the requirement, eliminating to remain a sole candidate should not be > a core goal of nomcom > > I am not a fan of a single candidate but if there were no other applicants > that meets the basic nomination requirements then there will be nothing to > slate other than the sole candidate which is fine. > > As I said in the past, one of the critical role of nomcom is to produce a > competitive slate..I want to assume there were no other qualified > candidates for that region and considering that this current nomcom did not > have so much time on their hands to attempt lengthy extensions we live with > what we have. > > Regards > > ---- > Sent from my mobile > kindly excuse typos > > On Thu, 11 Sept 2025, 1:58 pm Noah, <noah(a)neo.co.tz> wrote: > >> Well >> >> The 2022 Board Election which were stopped through a court order. >> >> While reading that affidavit, there were a number of complaints and one >> of them was that; the NOMCOM for which I was Chair, had slated only one >> Candidate for the North African Seat. That Candidate was Prof.Habib. >> >> I will make be publishing the same at different forums to form part of an >> interesting case study. >> >> Cheers, >> Noah >> >> On Wed, 10 Sept 2025, 1:51 pm Amin Dayekh, <admin(a)megamore.ng> wrote: >> >>> Well Done! >>> >>> I think at a certain point in time, back in 2022, when there was a slate >>> of candidates, the NomCom was discriminated for slating one candidate. What >>> changed now? >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 9:42 AM AFRINIC Communication via >>> Members-Discuss <members-discuss(a)afrinic.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Resource and Community Members, >>>> >>>> We are writing to inform you that there will be no election for Board >>>> Seat 1 (Northern Africa region), as only one suitable candidate has been >>>> retained by the Nomination Committee. Consequently, there being only one >>>> candidate for the one (1) seat to be filled for the Northern Africa region, >>>> the said candidate will be declared elected on 12 September 2025. >>>> >>>> [On behalf of Nomcom 2025] >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Members-Discuss mailing list >>>> Members-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Members-Discuss mailing list >>> Members-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Members-Discuss mailing list >> Members-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> >

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Re: [members-discuss] Update on the AFRINIC Board Election 2025
by Amin Dayekh 11 Sep '25

11 Sep '25

So if they did not have much time, according to a timeline they already set, we have to live with that? Brilliant bro ! On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 9:50 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Bro in your publication, just remember to indicate if there were other > qualified candidates or not. When 2 or very few candidates exists that > meets the requirement, eliminating to remain a sole candidate should not be > a core goal of nomcom > > I am not a fan of a single candidate but if there were no other applicants > that meets the basic nomination requirements then there will be nothing to > slate other than the sole candidate which is fine. > > As I said in the past, one of the critical role of nomcom is to produce a > competitive slate..I want to assume there were no other qualified > candidates for that region and considering that this current nomcom did not > have so much time on their hands to attempt lengthy extensions we live with > what we have. > > Regards > > ---- > Sent from my mobile > kindly excuse typos > > On Thu, 11 Sept 2025, 1:58 pm Noah, <noah(a)neo.co.tz> wrote: > >> Well >> >> The 2022 Board Election which were stopped through a court order. >> >> While reading that affidavit, there were a number of complaints and one >> of them was that; the NOMCOM for which I was Chair, had slated only one >> Candidate for the North African Seat. That Candidate was Prof.Habib. >> >> I will make be publishing the same at different forums to form part of an >> interesting case study. >> >> Cheers, >> Noah >> >> On Wed, 10 Sept 2025, 1:51 pm Amin Dayekh, <admin(a)megamore.ng> wrote: >> >>> Well Done! >>> >>> I think at a certain point in time, back in 2022, when there was a slate >>> of candidates, the NomCom was discriminated for slating one candidate. What >>> changed now? >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 9:42 AM AFRINIC Communication via >>> Members-Discuss <members-discuss(a)afrinic.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Resource and Community Members, >>>> >>>> We are writing to inform you that there will be no election for Board >>>> Seat 1 (Northern Africa region), as only one suitable candidate has been >>>> retained by the Nomination Committee. Consequently, there being only one >>>> candidate for the one (1) seat to be filled for the Northern Africa region, >>>> the said candidate will be declared elected on 12 September 2025. >>>> >>>> [On behalf of Nomcom 2025] >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Members-Discuss mailing list >>>> Members-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Members-Discuss mailing list >>> Members-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Members-Discuss mailing list >> Members-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> >

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Re: [members-discuss] Update on the AFRINIC Board Election 2025
by Noah 11 Sep '25

11 Sep '25

Well The 2022 Board Election which were stopped through a court order. While reading that affidavit, there were a number of complaints and one of them was that; the NOMCOM for which I was Chair, had slated only one Candidate for the North African Seat. That Candidate was Prof.Habib. I will make be publishing the same at different forums to form part of an interesting case study. Cheers, Noah On Wed, 10 Sept 2025, 1:51 pm Amin Dayekh, <admin(a)megamore.ng> wrote: > Well Done! > > I think at a certain point in time, back in 2022, when there was a slate > of candidates, the NomCom was discriminated for slating one candidate. What > changed now? > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 9:42 AM AFRINIC Communication via Members-Discuss < > members-discuss(a)afrinic.net> wrote: > >> Dear Resource and Community Members, >> >> We are writing to inform you that there will be no election for Board >> Seat 1 (Northern Africa region), as only one suitable candidate has been >> retained by the Nomination Committee. Consequently, there being only one >> candidate for the one (1) seat to be filled for the Northern Africa region, >> the said candidate will be declared elected on 12 September 2025. >> >> [On behalf of Nomcom 2025] >> _______________________________________________ >> Members-Discuss mailing list >> Members-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > Members-Discuss mailing list > Members-Discuss(a)afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >

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Afrinic election slate and ZANOGs View
by edd＠nog.net.za 11 Sep '25

11 Sep '25

Hi all With the upcoming AFRINIC election, ZANOG encourages all eligible voters to research the candidates, and cast their votes carefully. We believe the candidates below represent the best mix of experience, integrity, and commitment to strengthening AFRINIC, combining technical expertise, governance knowledge, and a dedication to transparency, accountability, and member-driven leadership for the future of our Registry https://election.afrinic.net/candidate-slate Seat 1 (North Africa) - Abdelaziz Hilali Seat 2 (West Africa) - Emmanuel Adewale Adedokun Seat 3 (Indian Ocean) - Kaleem Usmani Seat 4 (Central Africa) - Laurent Ntumba Seat 5 (Southern Africa) - Carla Sanderson Seat 6 (East Africa) - Fiona Asonga Seat 7 (Non-regional/Independent 1) - Ben Roberts Seat 8 (Non-regional/Independent 2) - Adewole David Ajao Kind regards Edd

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Re: zanog-discuss Digest, Vol 22, Issue 8
by Paul Hjul 10 Sep '25

10 Sep '25

---- I mean - it's a very vague statement that is highly subjective, and doesn't really contain any objective statements that can be evaluated by anyone. It's the same as saying Mars really has issues..... Andrew ---- For reasons that may or may not be self-evident I am not commenting on the legality of the upcoming election nor what flows from potential hiccups that arise. I wish the candidates luck, and can say I am impressed with most of the slate which is advanced as a community candidate list - there are some very good people on that list and at least one candidate not on the list who is certainly fit and proper. But Andrew's comment can't go without a bit of a chime in. There is at least one issue which Mars doesn't have which Africa does and unless you can get a means to transport that problem from Tanzania to Mars I am afraid that Mars despite having a bad atmosphere has at least one major issue less than than Africa. ;) On Wed, 10 Sept 2025 at 10:16, <zanog-discuss-request(a)lists.nog.net.za> wrote: > Send zanog-discuss mailing list submissions to > zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > zanog-discuss-request(a)lists.nog.net.za > > You can reach the person managing the list at > zanog-discuss-owner(a)lists.nog.net.za > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of zanog-discuss digest..."Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Afrinic election slate and ZANOGs View (Andrew Alston) > 2. Re: Afrinic election slate and ZANOGs View (Mark Elkins) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Andrew Alston <aa(a)alstonnetworks.net> > To: zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za > Cc: edd(a)nog.net.za > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 11:12:34 +0300 > Subject: [zanog-discuss] Re: Afrinic election slate and ZANOGs View > Care to explain why you believe this Noah? > > I mean - it's a very vague statement that is highly subjective, and > doesn't really contain any objective statements that can be evaluated by > anyone. > > It's the same as saying Mars really has issues..... > > Andrew > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 9:27 AM Noah via zanog-discuss < > zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za> wrote: > >> Folks >> >> I will be very honest. We really have issues in this continent. >> >> Cheers, >> *.**/noah* >> >> >> On Tue, 9 Sept 2025, 10:47 pm Edrich de Lange via zanog-discuss, < >> zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za> wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> With the upcoming AFRINIC election, ZANOG encourages all eligible voters >>> to research the candidates, and cast their votes carefully. We believe the >>> candidates below represent the best mix of experience, integrity, and >>> commitment to strengthening AFRINIC, combining technical expertise, >>> governance knowledge, and a dedication to transparency, accountability, and >>> member-driven leadership for the future of our Registry >>> >>> https://election.afrinic.net/candidate-slate >>> >>> >>> >>> Seat 1 (North Africa) - Abdelaziz Hilali >>> Seat 2 (West Africa) - Emmanuel Adewale Adedokun >>> Seat 3 (Indian Ocean) - Kaleem Usmani >>> Seat 4 (Central Africa) - Laurent Ntumba >>> Seat 5 (Southern Africa) - Carla Sanderson >>> Seat 6 (East Africa) - Fiona Asonga >>> Seat 7 (Non-regional/Independent 1) - Ben Roberts >>> Seat 8 (Non-regional/Independent 2) - Adewole David Ajao >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Edd >>> _______________________________________________ >>> zanog-discuss mailing list -- zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za >>> To unsubscribe send an email to zanog-discuss-leave(a)lists.nog.net.za >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> zanog-discuss mailing list -- zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za >> To unsubscribe send an email to zanog-discuss-leave(a)lists.nog.net.za >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark Elkins <mark(a)posix.co.za> > To: zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 10:13:32 +0200 > Subject: [zanog-discuss] Re: Afrinic election slate and ZANOGs View > > Hi folks > > There will always appear to be problems as long as there are people that > disagree with our personal viewpoint.... > > On that subject - why is ZANOG suggesting non-South Africans for seat 9 > whilst I am standing for that seat. Don't we want a little more influence > on the AFRINIC Board. Please vote for me for seat 8. > > I am an ex-AFRINIC Board Member (the board needs some history), the > re-creator of CO.ZA, DNS Trainer, part of the DNS Study of Africa, Part > of the ICANN DNSSEC & Security management, local ISOC Board - etc. I run an > ISP, am a Registrar and Registry operator of EDU.ZA > On 10/09/2025 08:25, Noah via zanog-discuss wrote: > > Folks > > I will be very honest. We really have issues in this continent. > > Cheers, > *.**/noah* > > > On Tue, 9 Sept 2025, 10:47 pm Edrich de Lange via zanog-discuss, < > zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za> wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> With the upcoming AFRINIC election, ZANOG encourages all eligible voters >> to research the candidates, and cast their votes carefully. We believe the >> candidates below represent the best mix of experience, integrity, and >> commitment to strengthening AFRINIC, combining technical expertise, >> governance knowledge, and a dedication to transparency, accountability, and >> member-driven leadership for the future of our Registry >> >> https://election.afrinic.net/candidate-slate >> >> >> >> Seat 1 (North Africa) - Abdelaziz Hilali >> Seat 2 (West Africa) - Emmanuel Adewale Adedokun >> Seat 3 (Indian Ocean) - Kaleem Usmani >> Seat 4 (Central Africa) - Laurent Ntumba >> Seat 5 (Southern Africa) - Carla Sanderson >> Seat 6 (East Africa) - Fiona Asonga >> Seat 7 (Non-regional/Independent 1) - Ben Roberts >> Seat 8 (Non-regional/Independent 2) - Adewole David Ajao >> >> Kind regards >> >> Edd >> _______________________________________________ >> zanog-discuss mailing list -- zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za >> To unsubscribe send an email to zanog-discuss-leave(a)lists.nog.net.za >> > > _______________________________________________ > zanog-discuss mailing list -- zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za > To unsubscribe send an email to zanog-discuss-leave(a)lists.nog.net.za > > -- > > Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa > mje(a)posix.co.za Tel: +27.826010496 <+27826010496> > For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za > > [image: Posix Systems][image: VCARD for MJ Elkins] > > _______________________________________________ > zanog-discuss mailing list -- zanog-discuss(a)lists.nog.net.za > To unsubscribe send an email to zanog-discuss-leave(a)lists.nog.net.za >

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ISPA press release: AFRINIC online voting kicks off, ISPA makes recommendations
by Elaine Zinn 10 Sep '25

10 Sep '25

Dear ZANOG members Please find a press release issued by ISPA for your information. Kind regards Elaine elaine(a)ispa.org.za <mailto:elaine@ispa.org.za> secretariat(a)ispa.org.za <mailto:secretariat@ispa.org.za> Tel: +27 83 327 4806 PRESS RELEASE BY ISPA 10 September 2025 ONLINE VOTING FOR NEW AFRINIC BOARD SET FROM 10-12 SEPTEMBER ISPA, SA's official internet Industry Representative Body (IRB), is reminding members of AFRINIC (The African Network Information Centre) that online voting for the organisation's new Board opens today and urges them to vote for specific, worthy candidates. Online voting for the all-important Board of Africa's Regional Internet Registry (RIR) is scheduled to run from 10 to 12 September 2025 (there will be no in-person voting). AFRINIC has been without a functioning Board for three years. An attempt to hold an election earlier this year was annulled after allegations of voting fraud were raised by numerous resource members. "It is crucial for competent persons to take control of AFRINIC and steer it to a new, drama-free future centred on technical proficiency and wise decision-making, always with the African internet community and end users top of mind," says Sasha Booth-Beharilal, ISPA Chair. While ISPA has traditionally refrained historically from making specific AFRINIC voting recommendations, the unusual nature of the recent elections means ISPA is forced to recommend voting for a capable set of candidates for the good of the African internet. ISPA is pleased that all of the candidates it supported in the previous (annulled) election are standing again. After consultation with other stakeholders, colleagues and industry associations, ISPA's Board strongly encourages all AFRINIC resource members to vote for the following list of candidates: Seat one: North Africa Candidate: Abdelaziz Hilali Seat two: West Africa Candidate: Emmanuel Adewale Adedokun Seat three: Indian Ocean Candidate: Kaleem Usmani Seat four: Central Africa Candidate: Ntumba Kayemba Laurent Seat five: Southern Africa Candidate: Carla Sanderson Seat six: Eastern Africa Candidate: Fiona Asonga Seat seven: Region Independent Candidates: Benjamin Mark Roberts Seat eight: Region Independent Candidates: Ajao Adewole David While noting that there are other nominees who are also well-qualified to serve on AFRINIC's Board, ISPA believes that voting for this particular slate of candidates will assure the highest chance of success in the AFRINIC elections. ISPA remains committed to supporting its members in maintaining the security and integrity of their network resources. Visit the AFRINIC elections website [https://elections.afrinic.net/] for more information. Alternatively, should you require additional clarification, please contact secretariat(a)ispa.org.za <mailto:secretariat@ispa.org.za> . ENDS/

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invitation : Upcoming Workshop: Building Your Environment with Proxmox
by Sara Alamin 08 Sep '25

08 Sep '25

Hello ZANOG Community! This Saturday, SDNOG is thrilled to be hosting a workshop with one of the ZANOGers: Hendrik Visage where he will guide us through working with Proxmox and show us how to build and manage your own virtualised environment, to scale. This is a great opportunity to learn directly from an in-production expert, explore real-world setups, and ask your questions live, and consequently, we'd like to invite those of you, that are interested to join us. The workshop is aimed at those wanting to learn more about FOSS virtualisation, but we trust in Hendrik's abilities to scale up/down as necessary :-) Everyone is welcome to join; so please share this with your friends, colleagues, and networks.let’s learn, share, and grow together! Date: Saturday 6 September 2025 Time: 11:00 UTC Workshop details: https://docs.sdnog.sd/books/sdnog-workshops/page/proxmox-virtual-environmen… Join us online here: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/register/Z6G1hY3RQdyjlPTWD5NoeQ#/registrati… Thank you Hendrik for being a volunteer instructor.It's controbutions like yours' that help us keep the SDNOG workshops active, and, we appreciate you! :-) If you (or someone you know) would like to be a presenter at one of our workshops, please reach out to us via : info(a)sdnog.sd If you’re curious about our full weekly workshop program, you can check the schedule here: https://docs.sdnog.sd/books/activities-calendar/page/workshops-schedule See you on Saturday! --Sara Alamin-- sdnog team.

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