Noah,
I ask again, in the interests of transparency, will you share what was submitted to the court in order to get the TISPA order? If not - why not?
Andrew
On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 3:47 PM Noah via zanog-discuss < zanog-discuss@lists.nog.net.za> wrote:
Hi Jan
2014 post by the CEO of Cloud Innovation himself: https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2014/004161.html
Then there is interim order sought against policy that attained consensus by the internet community through bottom-up process https://afrinic.net/court-cases 2021 Jun 25 | Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC SC/COM/MOT/000382/2021 | Application for injunction – ref Resource Transfer Policy (Not granted) and ruling here https://afrinic.net/ast/220106_judges_order_-set_aside_with_costs_-382.pdf
There was a question On 05/02/2021 on Community-Discuss by a community member https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-February/003902.h...
There was an answer On 05/02/2021 from AFRINIC Communications https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-February/003907.h...
There was a question on NANOG https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/3MYN3WEG...
There was an answer by the CEO of Cloud Innovation: https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/MK7KQHPP...
I hope you can now complete your research and write a much more honest and balanced article in future.
Cheers, *.**/noah*
On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 1:56 PM Jan Vermeulen via zanog-discuss < zanog-discuss@lists.nog.net.za> wrote:
On 17 Jun 2025, at 12:31, Andrew Alston via zanog-discuss < zanog-discuss@lists.nog.net.za> wrote:
When I was on the board - the board never reviewed applications - that was not the boards responsibility. We have zero sight of what was being applied for - or the process used to evaluate the applications.
That would be like asking the board of any corporation to review individual sales of products the company was selling - it doesn't happen, and would never happen - that is not the function of a board.
Some fun background I re-read recently for my reporting about this.
(Summary: It corroborates what Andrew said RE board involvement in resource applications.)
Discussion about CIL on the RPD mailing list circa 2014:
- https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2014/004185.html
- https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2014/004191.html
- https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2014/004194.html
- https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2014/004206.html
- https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2014/004215.html
Then the subsequent board meeting:
https://web.archive.org/web/20241023192256/http://afrinic.net/board/meeting/...
Lots of gems in those minutes. Like Andrew getting in a kerfuffle with some other board members over making an audio recording of the meeting.
Also see "Discussion and decision about the Board Statement regarding the case of a particular resource application."
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