There have been a number of similar applications published here https://afrinic.net/court-cases and I don't remember you asking the plaintiffs to share such court documents that are subject to proceedings publicly especially when the matter is sub judice.

I encourage you to respect the court process, her ladyship, the Hon.judge and the legal teams.

I encourage everyone to also read: https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-calls-for-transparency-and-fairness-in-afrinic-board-elections-06-06-2025-en

I also encourage everyone to read: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/crain-to-dabee-07mar25-en.pdf

Cheers,
Noah Maina



On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 4:05 PM Andrew Alston <aa@alstonnetworks.net> wrote:
Noah,

I ask again, in the interests of transparency, will you share what was submitted to the court in order to get the TISPA order?  If not - why not?

Andrew


On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 3:47 PM Noah via zanog-discuss <zanog-discuss@lists.nog.net.za> wrote:
Hi Jan

2014 post by the CEO of Cloud Innovation himself: https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2014/004161.html

Then there is interim order sought against policy that attained consensus by the internet community through bottom-up process https://afrinic.net/court-cases 2021 Jun 25 | Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC SC/COM/MOT/000382/2021 | Application for injunction – ref Resource Transfer Policy (Not granted)  and ruling here https://afrinic.net/ast/220106_judges_order_-set_aside_with_costs_-382.pdf

There was a question On 05/02/2021 on Community-Discuss by a community member https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-February/003902.html

There was an answer On 05/02/2021 from AFRINIC Communications https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-February/003907.html

There was a question on NANOG https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/3MYN3WEGPZEMF44R2X2EG3UO7SAAHXMZ/

There was an answer by the CEO of Cloud Innovation: https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/MK7KQHPPKW2FMBHVEGYYYBLS2KU5RVPQ/

I hope you can now complete your research and write a much more honest and balanced article in future.

Cheers,
./noah



On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 1:56 PM Jan Vermeulen via zanog-discuss <zanog-discuss@lists.nog.net.za> wrote:

On 17 Jun 2025, at 12:31, Andrew Alston via zanog-discuss <zanog-discuss@lists.nog.net.za> wrote:

When I was on the board - the board never reviewed applications - that was not the boards responsibility.  We have zero sight of what was being applied for - or the process used to evaluate the applications.  

That would be like asking the board of any corporation to review individual sales of products the company was selling - it doesn't happen, and would never happen - that is not the function of a board.

Some fun background I re-read recently for my reporting about this.

(Summary: It corroborates what Andrew said RE board involvement in resource applications.)

Discussion about CIL on the RPD mailing list circa 2014:



Lots of gems in those minutes. Like Andrew getting in a kerfuffle with some other board members over making an audio recording of the meeting.

Also see "Discussion and decision about the Board Statement regarding the case of a particular resource application."

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